Bill Nye recently berated all of us who are pro-life to essentially “shut up.” He said, ‘You don’t know what you’re talking about! So be quiet – only we ‘scientists’ have any right to speak on this topic!”
Bill… I assert my right to speak…
May 9, 2016
Bill Nye the science guy abortion talk
Bill, how do you define murder?
It’s an important question. Even if you don’t believe that Elohim, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who gave Moses His covenant name, Yahweh, gave it as one of the Ten Commandments, I believe we can agree that murder is a bad thing. The Commandment says, “You shall not murder”, not “kill” – the Hebrew word for murder is
So – Bill… how do you define “murder?”
I know we both agree that “murder” is a bad thing. But is it just any killing? No – not every killing is a murder, we can also agree on that.
But when is a killing – or the taking of a life – a murder?
I’ll define it. It has something to do with intent – it must be deliberate, so accidents are out. And it must be unjust – self-defense, then, I think we can eliminate. So: let’s define murder as “the deliberate, unjust taking of an innocent human life.” I think we can both agree on that.
So – let’s analyze abortion. If abortion is defined as murder, Bill, I hope you would agree, then it should not be accepted in our society. It should be outlawed.
Now, one of your first (of many) logical fallacies has to do with intent. You seem to be stating, for example, that every miscarriage is the same as an abortion. Well – I guess it could be, if the miscarriage is deliberated induced by the mother with the sole purpose to end the pregnancy. But the vast majority of miscarriages are NOT deliberate – they are unintended. Despite their accidental nature, though, they are still heart-wrenching to the parents, especially the mother. So – there is certainly no moral equivalence between a miscarriage and an abortion, right?
Then: murder is always unjust. Bill, I would assume that you, like our current pope, are against capital punishment, i.e., the death penalty. I think that’s hypocritical, but we’ll leave that for another time. I think we can all agree that the baby in the womb is incapable of doing ANYTHING that would require the death penalty – it will be many years after the child is BORN (until they are a legal adult at 18) that they are legally capable of committing a crime so heinous that they need to pay with their lives. No – there’s nothing just about abortion for the baby.
“Innocent” is what an unborn baby is, without question. The baby in its mother’s womb is the definition of innocence.
That brings us to “human life…” And this is where we part ways, Mr. Nye.
I believe that, not only is a person a person (that is, a human being) from the moment of conception physically, but also spiritually.
Now, before I go any further: you (as is typical of your debate technique) use an unacceptable ad hominem attack of pro-lifers (like me) by suggesting – firmly – that we “don’t know what we’re talking about.” As if you do… and everyone who agrees with you do… but those who disagree with you don’t. I suppose you mean to say that all pro-life people are either “stupid” (lack the intellectual capacity) and/or “ignorant” (are untaught or don’t have the information that YOU have).
Like the Apostle Paul, when answering the false teachers, I will now state my “qualifications” to talk on the subject. Like Paul, I will say I’m being foolish. Like Paul, I count all my “worldly credentials” as skubalon (the Greek word that can be translated as “rubbish” or “manure”). I did nothing to give these blessings to me – all the glory goes to Him who made me.
So here goes: here’s my street cred…
- I have a Bachelor’s of Science degree from Villanova University in Biology;
- I have a Master’s of Science degree from Villanova University in Biology;
- I took, not one, but TWO, separate courses in Embryology (Comparative Embryology as an undergraduate; Developmental Biology as a graduate student);
- I have taught Biology for more than 30 years, covering this topic many times, in both Biology I, Biology II, and AP Biology courses;
- I have used the top secular Biology textbooks in teaching Biology, even at a Christian School – like Campbell Biology (7th Edition) and Miller/Levine Biology (2014 Edition);
- I have been a member of Mensa (testing, at age 30, in the top 1% on their test);
Am I “qualified” enough to “know what I’m talking about?” You decide.
So – from the moment that a new individual has formed, when the half-nucleus of a father’s sperm cell fuses with the half-nucleus of a mother’s mature ovum, a new human life has existed. That fertilized egg, now called a zygote, is, genetically, a human being. That zygote, which we all once were, will be born as a infant human being after, more or less, 40 weeks of gestation. That new individual, from the moment of conception on, has all the genetic information it will ever have. That complete package of information will be passed on to all the trillions of cells that single cell will eventually have. There is no genetic information added; there is no genetic information removed (except for the possibility of a mutation). But, even if a mutation happens, every cell this individual will produce will be, forever and always, … human.
If nature is allowed to take its course, that is. Bill Nye, Hillary Clinton, and every other Democratic politician in today’s Democratic Party (Bill Casey, Senior, has died) want to allow the course of nature to be disrupted. They cry and moan about chickens, pigs, and cattle being mistreated, to the point where many of them are vegans, but they agree that a baby human being in his or her mother’s womb is a fair target of destruction. They want to keep Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s eugenic dreams alive – to make sure there’s no “Cradle Competition” between the upper and lower classes. They’ll put themselves into concrete “jackets” to stop the Hegins’ Pigeon Shoot (that’s long over), but they’ll lift not a finger to stop one “safe and sanitary” abortion. They wouldn’t even want the grisly practice of “partial birth abortion” to be controlled. Just as long as that “fetus” is “terminated” by having its perfectly-formed human brain sucked out before its head leaves the mother’s birth canal – that’s OK with them. “After all” they say, “a woman’s choice must not be taken away from her.” Forget the rights of the fetus – despite being in the safest place that God – that is, Yahweh or Elohim – has designed – there’s no legal rights until it exits the “uterus”. Forget the fact that, despite the fact that the father contributed half the genetic information that the new individual human being has had since conception, he has absolutely no legal voice at all. In fact – “How DARE he have anything to say!” is the typical response, acting like offended Southern ladies when anyone brings that fact up.
Bill, I know you don’t believe the Bible has anything important to say about anything (convenient, then, that you live in a culture where you are blessed by laws based on its precepts), but I must finish this with a brief discussion on what the one-and-only genuine book written by Elohim… Yahweh… which is said to personify His one-and only Son, Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus the Messiah). In many places, people in the Scriptures are who they are before birth. Here’s a partial list:
Isaiah: “Listen to me, O coastlands,
and give attention, you peoples from afar.
The Lord called me from the womb,
from the body of my mother he named my name.” Isaiah 49:1
“And now the Lord says,
he who formed me from the womb to be his servant,
to bring Jacob back to him;” Isaiah 49: 5
Jeremiah: 4 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying,
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
and before you were born I consecrated you;
I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1: 4, 5
Job: After this Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth. 2 And Job said:
3 “Let the day perish on which I was born,
and the night that said,
‘A man is conceived.’
4 Let that day be darkness!
May God above not seek it,
nor light shine upon it. “ Job 3: 1 – 4
David: Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
and in sin did my mother conceive me.
6 Behold, you delight in truth in the inward being,
and you teach me wisdom in the secret heart. Psalm 51
Paul: “For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it. 14 And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, 16 was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;” Galatians 1:13 – 16
John the Baptist and Jesus: 39 In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a town in Judah, 40 and she entered the house of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth. 41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, 42 and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfillment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.” Luke 1: 39 – 45
Every one of these individuals existed as their own identity BEFORE they were born. I’ll finish with Psalm 139 – which is David – again – declaring his humanity and personal identity before he was born. Notice all the personal pronouns and adjectives:
David: For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them. Psalm 139: 13 – 16
No doubt, Bill. No doubt!